Roger Castillo – Satsang – A Spontaneous STOP

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at finding ourselves frustrated
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frustrated because as humans without a
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direction we tend to very easily get
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lost and follow ideas follow beliefs so
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if an interesting framework is put
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forward to us we can easily get lost
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thinking yes this is what I want and we
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might even dedicate many years to
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something that sounds interesting but
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maybe isn’t what we’re really looking
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for so the suggestion is that before we go any further we ask ourselves this question what am I really looking for in life
and so everything that I put
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forward in the talks are concepts. it’s
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not the truth but they’re very accurate
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accurate and useful concepts they’re
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useful because they come from a
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perspective whereby what was in the way
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of what humans are looking for has
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fallen away and a new perspective of
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life emerges and so the concepts are
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concepts that understand what the
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problem is in terms of human suffering
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and what’s on the other side of that veil.
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so the concepts are only useful in so
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much as they point at where our
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attention can land and if we can hear
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the concepts and understand what they’re
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saying see what they’re pointing at then
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the job is for us to investigate this
for ourselves to see if we agree with
the concepts see if we can see what
they’re pointing at.

and if we actually
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find that this investigation happens
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and we see certain things that we didn’t
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see before then the understanding is
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much more than just an intellectual
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understanding much more than just a
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belief it becomes something that belongs
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to oneself it’s a it becomes a knowing
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so please bear that in mind everything
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that is shared here is a concept all of
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the concepts are really useful they
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point at what needs to be seen
the real work is to do the investigation for oneself in one’s own daily life
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so here’s the question what are we really
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looking for in life and if we drop all
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our beliefs and become really practical
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about this question and say really if I
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don’t believe this or that what I’m
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really looking for is happiness in this
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life happiness right now if possible we
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might be holding on to a belief that
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says I’m looking for enlightenment we
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might not even have a very clear
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understanding about what that is so if
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we don’t really know what it is and
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we’re looking for enlightenment then it
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makes sense we might get lost so if we
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ask the question of ourself say let me
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just put all concepts aside for a second
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why do I find myself seeking anything in
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life including spiritual seeking and the
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answer is because I hope that it’s going
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to deliver something and what I hope it
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will deliver I believe will make me
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happy that’s why I’m seeking after it so
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maybe we can agree the answer to this
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question what am I really looking for
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when we drop all other beliefs and we’ve
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become really practical about this is
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I’m looking for happiness now I’ll
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explain why that’s a good answer
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but if we can keep this in mind as being
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a suggested answer so still one has to
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investigate and figure it out for
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oneself
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it’s the suggested answer but once we
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tick it off and it becomes clear what
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we’re looking for happiness and we
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become very clear on what happiness is
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then whenever we find ourselves feeling
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lost feeling uncomfortable feeling
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resistance to life in a particular form
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we can come back to this question
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actually what I’m really looking for is
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happiness and then we can look at the
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situation that’s here we can look at
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what it is that we’re engaging in and
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say is this contributing to my happiness
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is this an attack on my happiness and
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each time we refocus back to human
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happiness we’ll find that a lot of the
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things that we are involved with that
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are feeling uncomfortable tend to lose
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their significance so reminding
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ourselves of what we’re really looking
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for can bring us back on track time and
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time again throughout the whole process
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so the process is going to take three
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years or one year or one month
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coming back on track is essential
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so what is human happiness we’re looking
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for happiness but do we know what human
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happiness is do we know what this happiness
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is it if we look at our movement in life
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humanity’s movement in life we’ll be
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able to conclude that the assumption the
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belief is that human happiness is to be
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found in outcomes the assumption is that
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my happiness will be there when life
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looks a certain way now if we see that
there is this ingrained belief inside of us that says what I’m looking for will be there when life looks a certain way when outcomes turn out a certain way
now many of us will understand on an
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intellectual level that that’s not where
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happiness is to be found but when we
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look at our reaction to life we might
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start to see that even though on an
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intellectual level we understand that
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our happiness isn’t to be found in
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outcomes the reaction when life turns a
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way that we don’t want the reaction is
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as if my happiness is to be found and
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outcomes the resistance the internal
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resistance that comes up tells us that
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inside the system there is a belief that
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says my happiness or my completeness is
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to be found with life looking the x y&z;
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way and when it turns out a B and C way
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it’s not acceptable so to see this to
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recognize this to put a tick next to it
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is a great move forward
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it means we’re really starting to see
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things as they are
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so the suggestion here is that life has
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embedded in the human being a deeply
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ingrained belief several beliefs but one
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of the main ones is the belief that my
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happiness is to be found in outcomes my
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completeness is to be found in
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circumstance in life looking a certain
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way it turns out that human happiness is
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never to be found in outcomes never to
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be found in the flow of life human
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happiness turns out to be continuous
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unbroken peace of mind
this peace of mind isn’t circumstantial
it’s not
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determined by the circumstance but rather
peace of mind is based on our attitude to the circumstance
how we
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relate to what is there so this deeply
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ingrained belief that my happiness or my
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completeness is dependent on
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circumstance is an attitude or forces an
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attitude to arise when life turns out a
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certain way it’s an attitude of feeling
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attacked by the circumstance because the
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belief says this circumstance when it’s
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painful is an attack on Who I am and the
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happiness the human is looking for turns
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out to be
peace of mind which is just the absence of this attitude of attachment to outcome
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so while this deeply ingrained belief is
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in place it simply isn’t possible to be
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happy every time life turns out
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painfully and even when it’s turning out
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pleasurably there are a series of
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reactions inside that prevents peace of
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mind from being there it’s not optional
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this reaction that happens isn’t
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something we choose to do you don’t say
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okay now I’m going to choose to resist
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life resistance happens and we feel it
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we experience it
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the resistance is a result of this
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deeply ingrained belief that is forced
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to explode into action when life
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delivers pain because that pain is
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interpreted as an attack on Hawaii the
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good news this is the great news is that
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this belief is false it’s an error the
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belief that my happiness my completeness
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is to be found and outcomes is an error
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and that means that the resistance to
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life anyone want to guess what that is
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it’s an error an error based on an error
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so this is why we hear that suffering
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isn’t real now when we hear suffering
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isn’t real it doesn’t mean that it
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doesn’t actually arise it doesn’t mean
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that it we don’t feel it in fact
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suffering is an uncomfortableness with
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oneself and uncomfortableness with the
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other and uncomfortableness with life
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it’s one of the most uncomfortable
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feelings there is and yet we’re told
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suffering isn’t real if we understand
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what this means then instead of that
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statement sounding cruel and at some
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point if we say to someone who’s
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suffering you’re suffering isn’t real
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it’s not a very effective way what can
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be effective but it’s not always a very
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effective way of dealing with the
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situation so maybe this puts it into
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context what it really means when we
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hear suffering isn’t real what it means
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is it’s based on a false belief the
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belief is an error and therefore the
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flower from that belief which is a
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feeling of uncomfortableness the feeling
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of resistance towards life is an error
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why is this really good news it’s really
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good news because when the error is
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undone the subsequent error no longer
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arises
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hence the end of suffering
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is something which is available for
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everyone actually something that’s
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available for everyone right now because
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the error actually is a series of
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beliefs and that any moment life can
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undo a belief and if the belief drops
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what drops is this idea of who we are an
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idea that was put in place and very
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early on in our life an idea that has
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been reinforced moment after moment day
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after day based on how the experience
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presents itself in how we interpret the
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experience so you can imagine at the age
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of 20 this idea of who we are
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based on the experience of life has had
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20 years of being engrained second after
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second after second after second after
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20 years at the age of 40 it is twice
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that amount of time if you’re a 70 year
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old 70 years of this being ingrained in
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us and the belief that’s ingrained is so
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deep and so believed never questioned
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that it creates a very convincing
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experience of who we are an in instant
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that can collapse and life can suddenly
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be seen differently now when I say in an
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instant
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in practical terms usually this is a
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process that is gradual there are
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moments of Awakening that are instant
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spontaneous seem to come out of the blue
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in fact they happen often when we give
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up when we realize actually you know
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I’ve been working so hard at this
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for years and I realize I don’t know
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anything I’ve had enough of working hard
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at this particular topic and if we’re
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lucky we might just put it aside and
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carry on with our life and then out of
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the blue when we stop trying to make it
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happen there’s often an awakening and
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that awakening is not really that
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spontaneous and unconnected to anything
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else like it feels it’s it happens
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because life has taken the person
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through a history and the seeking that
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led to frustration was actually probably
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doing a lot of good was making a lot of
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changes and then the giving up also was
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part of that process so let’s look at
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these beliefs a little bit because
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there’s another belief that accompanies
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the belief that my happiness is to be
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found and outcomes another belief that
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adds to the idea of Who I am
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adds to the idea of what life is and it
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too is part of the error this other
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belief is the belief that I am the doer
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and the other is the doer meaning I am
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in control
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I am the agent the author the doer of
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whatever I say and whatever I think and
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whatever I however I act the reason that
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belief is in place is because our life
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experience the momentary experience
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feels like that’s the case and it always
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feels
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like that’s the case and so the belief
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gets put in place every time we get up
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and walk to the fridge the idea that I
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am the agent
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I am the doer gets reinforced and so
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this too is a deeply ingrained belief
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about Who I am that’s been put in place
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by life unfolding moment after moment
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after moment and when we see ourself as
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the doer meaning I’m the one that
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creates my thoughts that when when I
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think such-and-such when I look at
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someone and think and judge them or look
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at a car and think that’s a nice car or
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a bird I think that’s a nice bird it
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feels like that’s my thought that I
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created it and so this notion of do
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assha based on mede it being the creator
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of my thoughts is deeply ingrained and
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if I see myself as the doer I have to
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see the other as the doer well obviously
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I am the doer the other is the same as
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me but over there the doer
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this too is one of those errors when we
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investigate life beyond or below the
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surface experience of life we find that
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our beliefs are not that accurate so let
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me reiterate what we’re really looking
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for is happiness where we have been
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looking for happiness in life humanity
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for thousands of years has been looking
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for happiness in outcomes it turns out
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that our happiness is never to be found
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and outcomes our happiness is always
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attitudinal it turns out that happiness
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for the human being is continuous
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unbroken peace of mind regardless of the
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circumstance we find ourselves in
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happiness is the absence of suffering
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happiness for the human is the end of
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suffering the two deeply ingrained
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beliefs that create suffering
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remembering happiness is the end of
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suffering the two deeply ingrained
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beliefs that create suffering the belief
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that my happiness is to be found in
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outcomes and I am the doer and the other
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is the doer so all of these words
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concepts what does it mean by continent
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mean my happiness is not to be found in
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the flow of life concept the flow of
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life equals circumstance concept the
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flow of life is pleasure or pain concept
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we will experience pleasure when the
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flow of life the outcomes in the flow of
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life are in line with our biological
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preferences concept we will experience
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pain when the flow of life is not in
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line with our biological preferences
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concept
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Huhn human happiness turns out to be
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continuous unbroken peace of mind
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concept peace of mind is the absence of
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suffering concept there is a deeply
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ingrained belief that I am the doer and
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the other is the doer concept there is a
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deeply ingrained belief that my
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happiness is to be found in outcomes in
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pleasure and pain concept so when I’m
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speaking I’m speaking to the working
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mind the part of the person that will
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absorb these concepts now you don’t have
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to do the absorbing so if it all gets
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too much just relax and open up your
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heart or drop into your body close your
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eyes if your head hurts because your
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brains thinking too much you can quite
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comfortably say that’s enough for now
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and drop into a much more open space in
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fact listen from an open space which
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means you don’t have to listen to
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intently believe me I will repeat this
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many times and some of you are going to
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be here for three days and some for six
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days some just for tonight and even one
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night you I’ll repeat it quite a few
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times the good news is that you don’t
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have to do the understanding just simply
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being here means life is delivering new
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conditioning Ramesh used to say make no
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mistake these talks are simply new
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conditioning
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this for those who aren’t familiar is
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Ramesh Behl saga’ who is my teacher I
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came across ramesh in 2005 in Mumbai he
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died in 2009 and a lot of what I share
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is in line with the teachings he put
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forward so Ramesh would say make no
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mistake the concepts the talks here are
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simply new conditioning how that this
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new conditioning will affect our
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up-to-date-conditioning is not in my
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control
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and it’s not in your control the concept
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some of them will fly over our head some
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of them will be understood and we won’t
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like them others could penetrate
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straight into the heart and which way a
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concept lands not up to you or me we
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once again we think we’re the doers we
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think that if I’m going to understand it
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I need to understand I need to work hard
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at understanding it this is sort of an
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analogies like I’m throwing mud at you
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and it hits or it doesn’t hit so
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tomorrow the SAP some of these concepts
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my happiness isn’t to be found in the
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flow of life you might see it arising in
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your head if it arises it means that the
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concept or the new conditioning has
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affected your up-to-date-conditioning
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that’s why it would be arising because
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whatever arises in any moment is based
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on makeup at that particular point in
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time
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and our makeup at any point in time and
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when I’m talking about our makeup I’m
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talking about the biological and the
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psychological aspect of the human being
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the makeup of a human being at any
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particular point in time is based on two
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factors so you might notice these are
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the concepts carrying on based on two
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factors one is genes and one’s
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up-to-date-conditioning so once we have
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an idea of what genes and
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up-to-date-conditioning means we can
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start investigating it now we don’t need
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to be become genetic scientists only a
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few people in the world understand the
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complexities of genetic science we just
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need to understand in principle that
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genes make up the structure of the body
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they determine whether we have blue eyes
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or green eyes whether we have whether
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we’re short or tall how emotional we are
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or how brave how fast we can run what
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things what things we like and don’t
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like so we just need to understand the
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genetics makeup the physical structure
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of the body and we weren’t in control of
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the genes we were given we weren’t in
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control of the Barrett parents we were
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born to and our genes are a result of
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our parents genes and
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up-to-date-conditioning is the
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cumulative effect of all of the
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conditioning that has been delivered to
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us through the course of our life moment
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after moment after moment after moment
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meaning the conditioning we received in
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our family unit the conditioning we
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received in the country that we live in
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the political and religious systems that
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we live the conditioning from the school
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that we went to our friends that we made
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events that happen to us
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throughout our life each moment life is
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delivering new conditioning and the new
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conditioning can add to our existing
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conditioning all radically change anew
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our up-to-date-conditioning
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so if certain conditioning is in line
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with the conditioning that has come
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before it will strengthen certain
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aspects of our up-to-date conditioning
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and then if we get new conditioning that
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is radically different the new
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conditioning could change our
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up-to-date-conditioning by radically
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knocking out certain previous
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conditioning so at any point in time we
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have up-to-date conditioning which is a
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cumulative effect of all the
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conditioning that we’ve received in life
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so in this moment Roger on a biological
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and psychological level is one way this
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way and in general terms I can say Roger
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is this way and I am this way based on
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two factors my genes and
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up-to-date-conditioning so the genes you
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could say is like the computer the
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hardware and the up-to-date conditioning
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is the operating system and software and
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the operating system and software is
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continually being updated continually
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being affected by new conditioning that
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life delivers
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so if we look at the example of two
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chemicals that come together each
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chemical has a particular chemical
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composition the chemical didn’t choose
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what chemical composition it has the two
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chemicals come together there’s a
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reaction depending on the chemical
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composition of the two chemicals that
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they didn’t choose they don’t sit down
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and have a conference as to how they’re
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going to react one chemical doesn’t say
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to it so far or I’m going to react this
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way the reaction is impersonal based on
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the environment that the chemicals are
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in and their particular composition and
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if we see a human being when we look at
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it closely when we drop beyond the
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beliefs drop beyond the way the
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circumstance presents itself to apply a
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little bit of non invested critical
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thinking hopefully aided by the concepts
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being put forward forward and we’ll
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start to see wow whatever I do in each
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moment is a happening based on something
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that came before so I see something I
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smell something I hear something I taste
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something I touch something something in
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the environment so I see a bird fly
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across the horizon I’m not in control of
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that bird flying across the horizon I’m
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not in control of seeing it and there’s
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a result of seeing the bird that I
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wasn’t in control of seeing a thought
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might arise and that thought is based on
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my genes and up-to-date-conditioning
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that I was never in control of
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so if we investigate this fact to a
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fairly simple investigation following
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the suggestions here we’ll maybe start
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to see wow I’m not in as much control as
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I thought now when we hear this the
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reaction inside might be no no no I this
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is not what I this is I didn’t come here
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to hear this so the doer inside of us
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the belief in personal do it ship is
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invested in maintaining itself it’s
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invested in surviving the concepts being
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put forward there are direct attack on
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the identity which is this set of
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beliefs and so one of the reactions that
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might happen is this uncomfortable
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feeling inside set of thoughts that
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arise and have fine try to find any way
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of making this inaccurate remember this
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is why we need to be clear on the answer
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to the question because the doer isn’t
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clear on the answer to this question the
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doer has its and when I say the doer
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it’s a set of beliefs it has its own
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answer to this question it happens the
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word is the same the answer I put
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forward and the answer that the belief
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in personal do ership has is the same
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happiness but the understanding of what
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happiness is is radically different the
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Dewar’s understanding of happiness is my
34:06
happiness is to be found in outcomes and
34:08
I the doer have to make that happen
34:15
what happiness turns out to be his
34:18
continuous unbroken peace of mind never
34:21
to be found in circumstance always based
34:24
on our attitude to circumstance and the
34:31
attitude of unhappiness which we can
34:35
observe for ourselves is the attitude of
34:38
believing that I am the doer and that my
34:41
happiness is to be found in outcomes
34:43
why do I say that because what we can
34:47
see for ourselves when in a particular
34:51
moment we say I am undoubtedly unhappy
34:54
in this moment no questions about it so
34:56
we find a particular moment where we say
34:59
in this moment I’m annoyed and unhappy
35:02
and each time we look to see what is
35:07
there when we can be very sure that in
35:11
this moment I’m not happy we’ll find
35:13
that what’s there is either guilt blame
35:18
pride worry or anxiety expectation and
35:23
attachment to outcomes those five
35:27
categories encompass all of human
35:33
suffering all of human unhappiness so
35:40
under guilt there are a lot of some
35:46
variations of guilt lack of self-worth
35:52
insecurity embarrassment guilt for
35:58
simple things like what I didn’t do last
36:00
week for a friend so and the guilt
36:04
there’s a whole lot of different forms
36:06
shame is one of the deepest forms of
36:10
guilt under blame we have hatred
36:14
resentment jealousy blame for the person
36:21
that
36:22
put the milk carton back in the fridge
36:24
empty so we go to get milk to put in our
36:28
tea or coffee it’s empty not in line
36:32
with our preferences and we blame
36:36
someone or we blame myself if we blame
36:40
myself it’s guilt I’m not good enough
36:44
Here I am again like I did it again I I
36:48
had it on the shopping list and I forgot
36:51
to buy milk
36:53
what a loser guilt blame I hate my
37:00
brother he continually continuously
37:03
leaves no milk for me so these simple
37:09
thoughts are what is being referred to
37:13
and in their more intense form it’s a
37:17
very strong feeling in the body not a
37:20
thought when we look at it we can talk
37:23
about this over the next few days
37:26
feelings this is really important it’s
37:28
not often brought to our attention
37:31
feelings are actually very concentrated
37:34
thoughts a feeling of uncomfortableness
37:40
emotions actually are a very
37:43
concentrated form of thought and we can
37:47
see this by diving into the feeling if
37:52
that happens when we really feel the
37:55
feeling and we express it we’ll see that
38:00
there’s a story at the bottom of the
38:01
feeling I hate you for having left me
38:06
and we when we feel it on the surface it
38:10
might just be this uncomfortable feeling
38:12
that has no real definition to it and if
38:19
we find that that feeling is allowed to
38:23
grow which we’re not very good at doing
38:27
we tend to want to suppress these
38:29
feelings but if at some point it starts
38:32
to make sense to us
38:33
to allow these feelings to grow in
38:35
we’ll talk about that too and why it
38:38
makes sense to feel these feelings
38:40
instead of distracting ourselves and it
38:45
gets to a point where we can express it
38:47
we’ll find that there’s a lot of
38:49
definition at the root of this feeling
38:52
and the definition is a story about what
38:55
someone has done to us to hurt us and a
38:59
hatred or a sadness for that and a story
39:07
about what we have done that wasn’t good
39:10
enough so feelings are really condensed
39:18
thought-forms this is important to
39:22
remember or to start contemplating
39:24
because it ties back into what we’re
39:27
talking about here so pride is the third
39:34
form of suffering guilt blame pride
39:39
pride is a feeling in relation to
39:42
actions that have happened through us
39:44
that have delivered positive outcomes in
39:47
the same way as guilt is a feeling in
39:52
relation to those outcomes that are
39:54
negative pride in relation to those
39:56
outcomes that are positive and when we
39:59
look at it guilt blame and pride all
40:04
have a very common theme the belief in
40:10
personal Durer ship I hate myself for
40:15
what I did I should have and I could
40:18
have done it better I hate you for what
40:22
you have done to me you should have been
40:25
could have done it differently look how
40:28
great I am look what I have achieved
40:32
this is my doing I hope you realize that
40:37
guilt blame and pride all based on the
40:40
belief that I am the doer and the other
40:42
is the doer
40:49
worry and anxiety is based on the belief
40:54
that my happiness is to be found in
40:56
outcomes that my completeness is
40:59
dependent on life looking a certain way
41:01
and because we’ve come to see that life
41:04
is very unpredictable meaning it
41:08
delivers pain which is not in line with
41:11
my preferences not in line with where I
41:13
believe my happiness is to be found then
41:16
worry arises about what might happen in
41:19
the future and when that worry becomes
41:23
really intense it arises as anxiety and
41:27
anxiety often is felt in the body as a
41:30
feeling not so much necessarily
41:34
recognized as a thought and when we go
41:37
into it and feel it we’ll see that
41:39
there’s a storyline at the bottom of it
41:45
to worry an anxiety worrying about what
41:49
might happen in the future that is an
41:53
attack on Who I am
41:57
anxieties actually sometimes feeling
42:00
like it’s already happened this very
42:04
terrible thing has already happened and
42:05
I’m just waiting to find out about it an
42:11
expectation and attachment to outcome
42:14
also based on the belief my happiness is
42:16
to be found in circumstance in pleasure
42:20
in outcomes and the expectation is a
42:24
story about how we want life to look
42:27
what my life is going to look like in
42:30
five years time which house I’m going to
42:33
be living in
42:34
how many kids I’m going to have or how
42:37
big my business will be or how many
42:39
countries I would have travelled to
42:42
whatever someone’s idea of happiness for
42:47
themselves is they’ll tend to have an
42:49
expectation which is running in their
42:51
mind all the time sort of a strategy how
42:53
am I going to make this happen an
42:56
attachment to outcomes very much linked
42:59
to expectation
43:00
but it refers to the feeling that is
43:04
there in the moment when things don’t go
43:06
right so if we let’s think we’d booked a
43:13
plane ticket and when we look at it we
43:18
say it’s booked for 6 a.m. and we turn
43:21
up at the airport at 6 p.m. and the
43:25
people at the counter say sorry this
43:28
flight left 12 hours ago and that pain
43:34
in the moment attachment to outcome is
43:38
the feeling that says no this can’t be
43:48
and feels completely uncomfortable with
43:52
the situation the fact is that is pain
43:56
in the moment so on one level or on the
43:59
level of pain pain he’ll pain will be
44:02
there the attachment to outcome is not
44:05
the experience of the pain and in this
44:10
case it’s financial pain not physical
44:13
pain the attachment to outcome is our
44:18
resistance and non acceptance of how
44:21
this could have happened and then along
44:25
with that what’s probably going to be
44:27
there is blame for someone I have to
44:31
find someone to blame it was the
44:33
computer systems fault
44:34
the website isn’t designed properly I’m
44:40
sure that I put 6 p.m. and not 6 a.m.
44:42
something’s gone wrong somewhere or it’s
44:46
guilt you know here I’ve done it again I
44:49
you know not good enough and the
44:57
different forms of suffering in there
45:00
very many different suits or
45:04
costumes are continually arising as life
45:10
unfold so what are we really looking for
45:17
we’re looking for happiness happiness is
45:19
never to be found and outcomes the
45:21
deeply ingrained belief is contrary to
45:23
that happiness turns out to be the end
45:28
of suffering suffering arises in these
45:31
five forms guilt blame pride worry
45:34
anxiety expectation and attachment to
45:37
outcomes these five forms when we look
45:41
at the linchpin the ground on which
45:45
these forms of suffering arise is the
45:49
belief in personal doership an
45:52
attachment to outcomes so I know I talk
45:58
a lot but when you really look at it
46:02
it’s actually quite worthwhile
46:04
conversation or monologue assume that I
46:07
meant conversations a monologue um but
46:14
now we’ve basically narrowed it down yes
46:16
I’m looking for happiness I don’t know
46:19
what happiness is I don’t have it
46:21
Roger is suggesting that happiness is
46:23
not to be found in outcomes but in our
46:28
attitude to life not circumstance itself
46:31
he’s saying that my happiness is
46:34
actually peace of mind regardless of
46:36
whether life is pleasurable or painful
46:38
so then we start investigating happiness
46:42
I’m not sure of but I’ve heard his
46:43
concept unhappiness yes that I can know
46:48
when it’s there and then we investigate
46:51
is it true when you’re unhappy that it’s
46:55
guilt blame pride warrior or expectation
46:58
arising in one form or the other is it
47:01
true that it’s based on the belief in
47:04
personal doership and attachment to
47:05
outcome could it be true that what I’m
47:08
actually looking for is just the end of
47:10
that
47:11
could it be my oh my happiness is not
47:14
something that I gain not something that
47:18
is added but the – of something and if
47:26
this notion doesn’t come into our head
47:28
so remember I’m talking to the working
47:30
mind I’ll explain what the working mind
47:33
is and the difference the two
47:36
distinctions in mind is the working mind
47:38
and the thinking mind all of these
47:41
concepts are being delivered to the
47:43
working mind if the working mind never
47:45
hears that happiness for the human being
47:49
actually is something completely
47:51
different to what the thinking mind
47:52
believes if the working mind doesn’t
47:56
hear it then there’s nothing in the mine
48:00
in the in the brain really we’re talking
48:03
about here nothing in the brain that’s
48:05
going to stop the working mind part of
48:09
the brain from continuing to seek
48:12
happiness where it’s not found and on
48:16
the contrary if the working mind gets
48:18
this for the first time in our life
48:22
maybe every time our seeking is outward
48:27
in circumstance the awareness and the
48:33
working mind can land on this can see it
48:37
and the thought might arise my happiness
48:41
isn’t to be found in pleasure or pain
48:43
I’m investing everything I can I can
48:48
feel it it’s uncomfortableness and when
48:50
I look at it I realize it’s because I’m
48:52
insisting that my life goes in this
48:54
direction and then the thought might
48:56
arise relax your happiness isn’t to be
48:58
found and pleasure and pain your
49:00
happiness isn’t to be found in achieving
49:02
circumstance that’s actually your
49:05
unhappiness the thought my happiness
49:07
isn’t to be found in the flow of life
49:09
cuts off the suffering which is
49:13
suffering in the form of expectation or
49:16
attachment to outcome in this particular
49:17
example this is how the process works
49:21
the working mind becomes
49:24
equipped becomes empowered to start
49:29
cutting off and dissolving the beliefs
49:33
that are held in the thinking mind the
49:38
thinking mind we can equate with
49:41
suffering and we can say that the
49:45
thinking mind is responsible for us
49:47
psychological reactions the rest of the
49:51
body’s genes and up-to-date-conditioning
49:53
are responsible for the biological
49:56
reactions so thinking about how much
50:01
money to take on holidaying for example
50:03
is not a function of the thinking mind
50:07
it’s not a psychological thinking it’s
50:12
not suffering it’s a functional form of
50:14
thinking and that functional form of
50:17
thinking doesn’t disturb our peace of
50:20
mind the functional functional thinking
50:23
is necessary as part of life it will
50:28
continue to be there even after
50:30
liberation and it doesn’t get in the way
50:33
of our happiness the thinking mind on
50:37
the other hand what we can call
50:39
suffering or this psychological reaction
50:43
does get in the way of our happiness and
50:47
it’s based on our genes and
50:50
up-to-date-conditioning that are
50:52
responsible for putting in place the
50:54
particular beliefs that say my happiness
50:56
is to be found in outcome I’m the doer
50:59
and the other is the door and the
51:04
process of transformation however it
51:07
does it whether we realize it or not
51:09
when we start to see what is happening
51:13
in this process it’s a process of these
51:16
beliefs being dissolved until such time
51:22
as life continues to unfold pleasure
51:26
sometimes and pain at others and we find
51:29
ourselves without these forms of
51:33
suffering arising and then we can
51:35
conclude our life must
51:38
have changed my deeply ingrained beliefs
51:42
such that the false beliefs of do ership
51:45
an attachment to outcome and no longer
51:47
there and as a result I find myself
51:55
living in life experiencing pleasure
51:57
sometimes and pain at others and yet
52:02
peace of mind is continuous and unbroken
52:15
no one is missing anything to have human
52:22
happiness on a continuous unbroken basis
52:25
you know if someone was born into the
52:29
world with let’s say one leg missing
52:31
then it’s fair to say they’re not going
52:34
to be a champion two-legged sprinter
52:39
because they might like this let me be
52:43
clear they might become a very adept
52:45
disabled sprinter but they’ll never be a
52:49
champion two-legged sprinter because
52:52
they’re missing a leg they just simply
52:54
fundamentally can’t be a two-legged
52:56
sprinter so in that case it’s not that
53:05
person’s birthright to be a two-legged
53:09
sprinter whereas every single human
53:12
being has everything that is needed in
53:17
order to be happy no one is missing
53:19
anything
53:20
I can say that confidently because our
53:24
happiness deep down stems from the core
53:29
of who we are the core of what the human
53:33
being is which happens to be much less
53:36
unique than we might think the core of
53:42
the human being is consciousness the
53:46
same consciousness functions through all
53:49
of us and I know that consciousness is
53:56
there or you can know the consciousness
53:59
is there simply by the fact that you
54:02
register my hand and the world around
54:06
you so in any moment when the world is
54:09
registered its registered by the
54:13
consciousness that is functioning
54:15
through the human being that
54:18
consciousness is the core of the human
54:20
being it’s the same consciousness that
54:24
functions through every human being
54:26
including Buddha and Jesus
54:28
Christ or whoever sage in history you
54:32
would like to put on a pedestal and
54:36
human happiness stems not from that
54:40
consciousness growing or developing it
54:45
stemmed from that consciousness being
54:47
recognized once the consciousness wakes
54:51
up to itself once that consciousness
54:55
recognizes itself and recognizes that
54:58
what it is is the core of the human
55:01
experience then life becomes
55:06
significantly less of a threat than it
55:08
used to be before previously the human
55:12
being was convinced that they were
55:13
essentially a physical entity
55:17
waking up to the consciousness that is
55:20
flowing through each of us demonstrates
55:23
that what I am at my core is not
55:25
physical its formless awareness that in
55:31
each moment he’s unchanged unaffected by
55:36
what’s happening in the flow of life a
55:38
recognition of this means that we can
55:41
rest in our own being
55:43
meaning consciousness can drop back into
55:47
itself and when it does that from our
55:51
own experience we start to get the
55:53
feedback of peace in the moment
55:56
regardless of the circumstance we find
55:58
ourself in and so then we have our own
56:03
self confirming evidence not something
56:07
that someone has told us but our own
56:11
capacity to drop into the heart of who
56:13
we are and find that the suffering can
56:18
instantaneously get cut off even when
56:23
the circumstance continues to be painful
56:25
and the more that we drop into this
56:32
place of rest home we could say a
56:36
realization of what we are at our core a
56:39
realization of what we are at our core
56:40
that is
56:41
formless not physical not affected by
56:44
the flow of life the more unthreatened
56:50
we feel by pain in the moment remember
56:55
when we see ourselves as simply a
56:57
physical entity completely disconnected
57:01
to what we are at our core everything
57:04
that happens in life is essentially just
57:06
the flow of life pleasure or pain the
57:11
flow of life when it’s painful
57:15
he’s an attack on the physical so to the
57:20
extent that we know ourselves only as
57:21
the physical then life is an attack on
57:24
Who I am and even when life is
57:26
delivering pleasure the thoughts will be
57:28
what is going to happen when this
57:30
pleasure ends I don’t want this pleasure
57:33
to end what’s going to take its place
57:36
and so even when life is pleasurable
57:39
we’ll find ourselves suffering certain
57:43
thoughts disturbing our peace of mind
57:46
and disturbing our enjoyment of the
57:48
pleasure in the moment
57:57
so for now I’ve spoken for long enough
58:01
and there’s a microphone there I have
58:06
lots more to say but it’s a good time if
58:10
anyone has any questions to ask now if
58:13
you’re going to use the microphone can
58:16
you wait for it to come around to you
58:17
and there’s a button on the microphone
58:20
if you can hold the button in for a
58:22
second or two and the green light will
58:23
come on and if the green light is
58:26
already on then you don’t need to press
58:27
the button
58:45
hello so I can really agree with what’s
58:51
being said but sometimes question comes
58:56
at least for me personally it’s maybe
59:00
the most relevant even though the
59:03
relaxedness relaxed feeling case here
59:07
but sometimes mind plays with questions
59:10
as regarding to future which which is
59:17
certain for all of us in physical form
59:20
its death so it’s it’s the only mind
59:25
it’s the only mind game that that place
59:30
and takes place so this this formless
59:35
awareness is couldn’t be explained to
59:41
oneself so easily so that’s maybe the
59:43
answer why it comes up so if you could
59:49
have any thoughts so you are saying that
59:54
even though pieces here the subject of
59:59
death still arises exactly for for a
60:03
feat to thought for thinking not not as
60:07
a real not as real disturbance of peace
60:12
but but something to which is search for
60:16
an answer
60:16
maybe ok well so you know when you go to
60:21
sleep at night and you have deep deep
60:25
sleep or if you find yourself in
60:30
meditation and it goes deep deep deep
60:32
deep deep sometimes to the point where
60:35
when we come back we almost might or
60:40
might even say why I fell asleep where
60:43
there’s so much relaxation there isn’t
60:46
even awareness any more awareness of
60:50
nothing that there’s no awareness of
60:52
anything
60:54
there’s absolutely no problems in that
60:58
state it’s great it’s a great relief
61:00
from the burden of the flow of life even
61:04
when life is peaceful it still can be
61:08
hard work um you know the body gets
61:11
tired things to deal with we go to sleep
61:15
and it’s just a relief from that so
61:20
death to me is just a great version of
61:24
that right there’s nothing to be scared
61:28
of no one to be upset people in life
61:35
when someone died they can be upset but
61:40
death for me is the end of life and I’m
61:46
this is a bit of a controversial topic
61:49
in a sense because someone will say well
61:53
you haven’t died how do you know what
61:55
death is I have some answers for that on
62:01
the one hand well it sounds like
62:03
logically that makes sense and still I’d
62:06
say I have no doubt and I used the word
62:09
loosely when I say no doubt because I
62:11
don’t hold anything absolutely but what
62:16
makes most sense to me based on an
62:19
investigation of life so when we come to
62:22
know life fully the understanding of
62:27
life fully in my mind means I know death
62:33
life is the presence of experience so
62:38
we’ve only ever experienced life as an
62:41
experience in this moment in this moment
62:45
there are memories of having experienced
62:49
life some other time that is a memory in
62:53
this moment and even if there was
62:56
another time
62:57
that other time essentially at that time
62:59
was a present moment experience like
63:01
this so we’ve only ever experienced life
63:05
as the present moment experience and in
63:07
order for there to be experience of the
63:11
trees and the chairs and the people
63:13
ending and the body our own body which
63:17
for a long time we assume is the subject
63:20
the body is the subject that observes
63:24
all the other objects outside if we come
63:31
to investigate the present moment more
63:35
and more it’s clear to many of us that
63:38
the body actually is also an object in
63:42
the experience an object just like the
63:45
other people and chairs and trees and we
63:51
might be able to see that the present
63:53
moment is a single experience arising in
63:55
consciousness that the experience is
63:59
designed to seem like many but just like
64:03
a single painting that has many trees in
64:06
it and many birds and flowers the
64:10
content is designed to appear like many
64:13
but actually it’s a single painting so
64:16
we can come to see that life is a single
64:20
momentary experience witnessed
64:24
experienced not by the body the body is
64:28
part and parcel of the experience but
64:31
witnessed by something that is aware of
64:33
the experience you can’t have experience
64:36
unless there is awareness of it so that
64:41
quite simply is my definition of life on
64:46
a fundamental level on a fundamental
64:48
level life is a momentary experience
64:52
experienced by consciousness what is
64:58
experienced is not separate from that
65:01
which experiences it and so death – and
65:07
I’m not necessarily talking about
65:09
physical death of the body I think it
65:11
happens that physical death of the body
65:13
but let’s say I’m incorrect about the
65:18
fact
65:18
death is the absence or death of the
65:20
body is the absence of experience
65:22
because that’s my definition of death
65:24
death is the absence of life life is the
65:29
presence of experience and the life we
65:32
know is the presence of experience
65:34
including a body that seems to be the
65:37
subject seems to be the protagonist the
65:41
main character death is the absence of
65:46
life and so if when the physical body
65:50
dies let’s say I get stabbed in the
65:53
chest by someone and the knife is
65:55
sticking out and I start to feel like
66:00
I’m leaving and I’m looking at the knife
66:05
and then that’s it I die physically die
66:09
that all happened in the momentary
66:11
experience of life it was the experience
66:14
that is arising right now recognized by
66:18
consciousness in we can say the
66:21
conscious recognized by the
66:23
consciousness in which the experience
66:25
arises or we can say recognize that by
66:28
the consciousness functioning through
66:30
the body they seem different they are
66:34
different but it’s a paradox where it’s
66:38
both if once Roger dies then I find
66:44
myself in what we can say is God’s
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waiting room and I’m sitting in a chair
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like and suddenly the Xperia and
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experience comes back and I’m sitting in
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the chair and I wonder what am I where
66:56
am i what am i doing here and then out
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of the corner of my eye I see the knife
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sticking out and then I have a memory
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says oh that’s right you were stabbed
67:09
and let’s say the experience was a
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little bit more ephemeral than this like
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oh I’m dead to me that’s not death
67:22
because what’s happening there is an
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experience so that’s life carrying on
67:27
not that’s not death that might be what
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we call
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death of the body I don’t suspect let me
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be clear I don’t suspect that there is a
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story that carries on after death of the
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body but if there is okay it’s just a
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continuation of life life on a different
67:45
plane let’s say but to me the same
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awareness would be they’re aware of the
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experience of me sitting in a chair in
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God’s waiting room and if the door opens
67:58
up and they call my name and I have to
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go in there the god that is there
68:05
talking to me is an object in the
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experience and the awareness that is
68:12
aware of the current experience knows
68:16
that any object a part of the experience
68:23
and are not fundamentally real and at
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some point my theory here my concept
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that’s being for put forward is that
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even that experience will come to an end
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and somewhere along the story the
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experience will end and there will be
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nothing there’ll be no Roger there will
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be no God there’ll be no awareness of
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even no awareness of nothing so that’s
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death for me the end of the experience
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why is it not scary why is it not
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something that disturbs peace because as
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you correctly say death in the story of
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life relative to the body is the
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ultimate assault on the button on the
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body even if you live a blessed life
69:17
where this wouldn’t happen but let’s say
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for the case of this example there’s
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pleasure pleasure pleasure pleasure
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pleasure pleasure pleasure death is an
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assault on the body so why is it after
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certain shifts happen why is it the
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death doesn’t pose a problem given it is
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the assault and the final assault on the
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body
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and my answer is that prior to
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recognizing this consciousness our idea
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of our self is based on the experience
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and the experiences largely that we are
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a physical entity separate independent
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walking through an objective world
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meaning that there is a rock called
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Earth floating in space or spinning in
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space and we’re on it and we move
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through life so we’re a physical entity
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on a in a physical objective reality
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world and what I am is separate
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unconnected to anything else
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and with that idea of my self life is
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very scary and death being the ultimate
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assault on the body is the ultimate
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attack on Who I am and so deep down we
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fear death
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we either fear the unknown or we fear
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what death is going to take away from us
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the experience of life because the
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deeply ingrained belief is my happiness
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is to be found in life my happiness is
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to be found in outcomes we know we’re
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not happy when I say that we feel like
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we haven’t fulfilled our purpose and so
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the idea that death is going to come
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doesn’t sit with us within though can’t
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come yet I haven’t quite got there so
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death is not only an attack on the body
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but an attack on where I think my
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happiness is to be found when these
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beliefs fall away we realize that the
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human being can be described this way
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the human being is impersonal
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consciousness of source that has linked
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to a particular body as a vehicle and is
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functioning through that body as
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personal consciousness personal
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consciousness is the experience that
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each of us are having right now it’s an
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experience
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its flavor is colored by the individual
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nosov who we feel our self to be which
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is based on the body so it’s an
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experience that is personal in a it
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feels like it’s my experiences Maya
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Mia’s Roger so impersonal consciousness
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of source linked to a particular body as
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a vehicle and then what is produced is
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what we can call personal consciousness
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the experience of Roger and everyone is
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the same so the analogy is like
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electricity that plugs into an appliance
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or home appliance and there are lots of
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different home appliance heaters and
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fans and air conditioners and ovens
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fridges each appliance is designed
72:53
differently the electricity that plugs
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into it is all the same electricity and
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when the electricity goes through the
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vehicle it produces a specific output so
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heat from the heater cold from a fridge
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movement from a fan so on the output is
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a direct result of the combination of
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the impersonal uncharacterized
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electricity and how it functions in
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conjunction with the instrument and so
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human beings can be seen like a whole
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lot of different instruments being
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enlivened by the consciousness of source
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and the output which is each person’s
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personal experience is completely
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dependent by the physical the biological
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and psychological aspects of the human
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of the body and in the consciousness
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that sort of fills the biological and
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psychological aspects is the
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consciousness of source another analogy
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is white light going through a red
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filter and coming out as red
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light the filter the red filter is the
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body the white light is impersonal
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consciousness of source and what comes
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out the red light which is a combination
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of the two the filter and the white
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light is the personal experience now in
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a sage okay so sage being a name for an
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enlightened being the the light is still
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red light the sage who’s enlightened
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doesn’t suddenly become just white light
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it’s still impersonal consciousness of
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source functioning through a filter as
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personal consciousness so red light or
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green light if it’s a green filter
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orange light if it’s an orange filter so
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the different colors just represent the
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unique makeup of all of the different
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vehicles that consciousness is
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functioning through so the raja nurse is
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dependent on the particular makeup of
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the body and the consciousness that
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functions through it now if i’m not
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familiar with the consciousness that
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functions through the body if that
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aspect of the human being
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hasn’t been recognized and the funny
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thing is it’s the very core of who we
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are it’s always here
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it’s unchanging at its core it’s
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awareness and the sense of existence and
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it’s called and yet it can go unnoticed
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for a whole lifetime this is the joke as
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well we don’t know our self which also
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seems really strange when you think
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about it how can we not know our self we
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are our self and yet we don’t nice off
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because this divine hypnosis has been
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put in place the divine hypnosis a set
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of beliefs that sort of prevent
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awareness from landing on itself and so
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the core of the human being is not
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recognized and to the extent that that’s
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not recognized or we know ourself as is
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the filter the white light and the red
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light aren’t recognized
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and we just know ourself as the filter
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and so life-or-death in particular is
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the complete assault on what I know
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myself as when I only know myself as the
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physical once there’s this awakening to
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what I am of my core is consciousness
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there’s a realization that when the
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filter gets destroyed the red light
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finishes because the red light is
76:54
dependent on the red filter but the
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white light is not affected we then can
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see that the experience of Roger and the
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experience of everyone is like a story
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in a book and the story is an experience
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and it has to have an end so death is
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just the end of the experience to know
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ourself as that which is not changing
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and not touched in the flow of life
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which really means to find this field of
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being and drop into there more and more
77:35
often so that we know our self to the
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extent that that happens then we come to
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know ourself at our core as being
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impersonal not having any
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characteristics not having an age or
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preferences or personality and I call so
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in deep meditation we realize there’s a
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sense of awareness and a sense of
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existence but the bodily aspects have
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fallen away in meditation this doesn’t
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mean that when we function in life we’re
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not going to feel like we have an age
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and agenda or and thing but we know that
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that’s just the red light and we’ve come
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to see that what I am at my core is this
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impersonal awareness that actually is
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unaffected by what happens in the flow
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of life and ultimately unaffected by
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death and so
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I think your question is spot-on that’s
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why I’ve spent a lot of time asking and
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answering it because what you stated is
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you don’t so much have fear about it but
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you have questions about death so
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hopefully the concepts that are put
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forward here give you something to think
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about something to contemplate so it’s
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not necessarily addressing your fear but
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hopefully putting life and death into
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context giving us a reference of death
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that we we have in life which is the
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falling away of life and deep sleep
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let’s saying or when we’re in deep
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meditation where we can come to say
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actually there’s not going to be anyone
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there in death to have a problem and
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then when we see that our fear of death
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is actually based on feeling like life
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is being taken away my completeness is
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dependent on life being present then the
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you know the errors can start to weaken
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yes exactly thank you it was sort of
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even from a paradoxical perspective I’m
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actually asking because in my experience
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when my grandfather died I was beside
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and it was even the deepening of this
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peace when the persons around a little
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down and I could stay with him in a room
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so it’s actually even the deeper
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experience of let’s say if it’s non
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disturbance presence in life so so to
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speak this this piece is even deeper in
80:38
these encounters and also my personal
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experience of unconsciousness is not
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even an experience just as you’re saying
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so it’s it’s actually spot on the answer
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and maybe maybe the maybe I don’t know
80:59
attachment to this piece that it would
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end or so to ask this question yeah just
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you know we have peace in daily living
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and that’s referred to as Samadhi in
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well my someone will give me a different
81:16
interpretation of the word Samadhi but
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Samadhi peace and daily living is the
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way I mean and then in Sanskrit death is
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Maha Samadhi the super Samadhi so that
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is the deepest piece which is the piece
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that is even free from the has a soul
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really of the flow of life now why I say
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I say hustle loosely at some point we
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know for ourself that we’ve experienced
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enough pleasure in enough pain that if I
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got more pleasure it would be just more
81:55
of what I’ve experienced we might have
81:57
some new pleasures but essentially
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there’s still pleasure and at some point
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life gets tiring and so if anyone wished
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that they would live for
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I suspect that that would be a wish that
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they would regret even with peace of
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mind in life there’s still a burden of
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the flow of life the pleasure and pain
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which is much more acceptable or
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completely acceptable but at some point
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when the prospect of death is there with
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this understanding you could actually go
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that’s okay thank you very much I’ve
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lived a long been off not life however
82:49
long that is I know that life is
82:52
pleasure or pain I’ve experienced
82:54
pleasure I’ve experienced player pain
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now I’m happy to rest thank you
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so the doer doesn’t exist as something
84:00
that actually ever does anything there
84:05
never has been a doer and there never
84:07
will be a doer so when I refer to the
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doer what you might notice is often I
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say the belief in do ership the belief
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in personal doership the belief in
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personal doership is a belief that says
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when speaking happens I did it
84:27
when the body does anything I did it so
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it’s a phantom that claims ownership
84:37
over what is happening so the doer
84:44
belief is what veils our true nature and
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when the doer belief is in place it’s
84:53
continually trying to get some we’re
84:57
continually trying to achieve something
85:00
and what it’s trying to achieve through
85:04
its different mechanisms is happiness it
85:10
thinks that it’s going to get happiness
85:11
by achieving certain pleasures really
85:17
when we look at it the experience has to
85:21
be mildly or intensely uncomfortable
85:23
because the doer belief exists so when
85:30
the doer belief exists there is going to
85:32
be an uncomfortableness with oneself
85:34
because the doer belief is a false idea
85:38
of who we are like it’s when we look at
85:40
the story of the doer it’s completely
85:43
wrong about life and completely wrong
85:46
about what it is and so once that’s
85:51
functioning there’s just an
85:53
uncomfortableness with oneself because
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it’s like trying to fit a glove that has
85:58
place for two fingers into like fitting
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a five finger hand into a two finger
86:03
glove
86:04
it’s just not going to fit to the extent
86:07
we know ourself in correctly there’s
86:08
uncomfortableness and then that
86:10
uncomfortableness drives the solution
86:13
for the uncomfortableness and the
86:16
solution that is presented out of the
86:21
uncomfortableness is fix this and you’ll
86:25
fix it by achieving this or that that’s
86:30
the solution that the doer comes up with
86:35
the irony is that the doer is the false
86:40
idea of oneself it is the
86:43
uncomfortableness and so the happiness
86:48
we’re looking for which is the end of
86:49
uncomfortableness or the end of
86:51
suffering really means the end of the
86:55
doer so it means stop trying to get so
86:59
stop trying to do something but the
87:03
words stop trying to get somewhere will
87:06
be quite possibly received by the doer
87:10
that says are ok I’ve been trying to get
87:13
somewhere and do something now I have to
87:15
stop trying to get somewhere and do
87:19
something and so if the doer here is
87:22
these words the doer is who’s and the
87:24
doer is feeling uncomfortable and now
87:26
the doer has heard that you’re
87:29
uncomfortableness is there because
87:33
you’re trying to get somewhere and
87:34
trying to do something so the doiis is
87:37
okay now I’m going to stop my mission is
87:41
to stop trying to get somewhere and
87:43
trying to do something which is in fact
87:46
the doer giving itself a new mission of
87:49
doing something now it’s going to try
87:52
and stop doing something so if we find
87:57
that the doer hears this and says okay
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so now my job is to in suffering it’s
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not going to happen because the doer is
88:06
just keeping itself alive so as I said
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before I’m speaking to the working mind
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the working mind is being equipped with
88:18
concepts so the working mind isn’t a
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doer either and the mind is a machine
88:24
that once it gets programmed a certain
88:28
way functions automatically so thinking
88:33
is a result of the mind being programmed
88:35
or certainly the doer ship thoughts is a
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result of the mind being programmed a
88:40
certain way now the mind is being given
88:43
new information that says the problem is
88:50
the doing aspect of the mind the belief
88:56
in the mind that says I need to do
88:58
something and I need to get somewhere
89:04
and we’re talking about the different
89:09
forms of suffering which are this
89:11
principle
89:12
so if awareness lands on suffering when
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it’s there and it recognizes oh that’s
89:20
because I’m trying to get somewhere I’m
89:24
trying to achieve happiness through
89:26
outcomes and then a thought comes up now
89:31
I have to stop doing this I have to work
89:34
hard and making sure I don’t do this so
89:39
that’s now the dog chasing its tail
89:43
because the doer is now saying now I
89:46
have to get somewhere I need to stop
89:48
doing this and one day the working mind
89:52
might see that this is the dog chasing
89:55
its tail and when it sees it it sees wow
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me trying to get somewhere is my
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uncomfortableness it’s the doer belief
90:06
me trying to stop is my
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uncomfortableness it’s the doer belief
90:12
and then at some instant the working
90:15
mind just like gets it just stopped
90:22
not as something
90:27
attempt to do as a strategy not
90:33
something as attempts to do as a mission
90:35
it just sees the the working mind the
90:39
doer mind always trying to control and
90:43
when it recognizes this is the problem
90:46
stop
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stopping happened we don’t do stopping
91:23
you know if you’re doing stopping it’s
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not stopping
91:29
it’s like surrender you can’t surrender
91:33
if you try to surrender it’s not
91:38
surrender surrender happens when
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and something’s here when the stop
92:06
happened in fact everything’s here when
92:09
the stop happens the stop is simply the
92:13
mind stops the experience of life is
92:18
still here it’s like oh here I am like
92:26
oh here I am the awareness and the sense
92:30
of existence is here to be seen but not
92:34
with the mind if the mind tries to see
92:38
awareness and the sense of existence
92:40
then the mind is trying to is looking
92:44
for awareness in the sense of existence
92:46
in the mind where it doesn’t exist so
92:53
awareness is recognized when the
92:55
thinking stopped and the life experience
93:00
is still here and what prevents the
93:05
stopping from happening is the deeply
93:07
ingrained idea that my happiness is to
93:10
be found in life looking a certain way
93:11
so it doesn’t make sense for me to stop
93:13
why would I stop if I think like
93:16
stopping is like yeah now I have more to
93:19
catch up with if I stop if the working
93:22
mind somehow starts to get it me trying
93:27
to go somewhere which I’ve always
93:28
thought on actually the working mind the
93:31
thinking mind has always done it because
93:34
it thinks this is good for me and we
93:38
blame people because somewhere in the
93:40
system somewhere it’s being registered
93:42
as this being a good thing to do blame
93:46
is good to do when we start to see that
93:49
blame is my my uncomfortableness with
93:52
the other so blame is seen the other as
93:55
the doer blaming them for what they did
93:58
that delivered pain which I receive as
94:01
an attack on Who I am and we feel like I
94:05
have to blame you it serves a purpose
94:08
and when we really look at it the only
94:11
purpose it serves is to make ourselves
94:13
uncomfortable with
94:14
situation and the same with when it
94:18
dawns on us that my trying to get
94:21
somewhere obsessively get somewhere
94:24
is what keeps me from being where I want
94:27
to be we don’t have to go anywhere to be
94:29
happy no one is missing anything so
94:32
going back to no one is missing anything
94:35
the fact is everyone has way too much
94:39
the process of the end of suffering is
94:46
not the gaining but the the throwing out
94:48
which we don’t do we don’t do the
94:50
throwing out life throws out a whole lot
94:52
of additional stuff that we have that
94:56
life has put in place so we’re not the
95:00
doer means we didn’t put the error in
95:02
place life put the error in place for a
95:06
particular reason
95:07
in order for life to turn out exactly
95:10
the way it turns out this is a this is
95:12
an experience of God of forgetting
95:15
itself and then God’s suffering at some
95:21
point God remembering itself and the
95:24
suffering coming to an end so the story
95:27
of life from the beginning of time to
95:28
the end of time is a creation completely
95:34
predetermined to unfold exactly as it’s
95:37
created there isn’t a you or me bringing
95:42
about what happens the only way in which
95:45
you and me contribute towards what is
95:49
happening is by doing in each moment
95:52
what we think or feel to do which
95:54
actually is God’s will happening God’s
95:58
will happening in in such a way that the
96:01
destined story of life unfolds exactly
96:04
as it’s destined to unfold how we can
96:08
see it’s God’s will happening is that
96:10
God has designed when I say God I don’t
96:13
mean some personal God that we imagine
96:15
out there looking in on the creation
96:18
laughing or you know saying this is
96:21
terror
96:21
why is it happening like this or like
96:23
puppets at the end of a string that’s a
96:27
concept of a god that doesn’t exist and
96:30
to the extent that we have that concept
96:33
of God we have a false idea of life in a
96:35
you know part of the problem but in this
96:39
teaching it is God as pure potentiality
96:43
consciousness at rest source so bubbling
96:48
potentiality at some point has to
96:51
manifest so the potentiality at some
96:55
point actualizes and what it actually
96:58
zz’s into is the story of life the
97:01
manifestation what we experience moment
97:05
after moment after moment and God has
97:09
become the mountains and the rivers and
97:11
the birds and the people and the actions
97:13
God has become the victim and the
97:16
perpetrator
97:17
so God isn’t inflicting suffering on
97:21
someone God has become the someone who
97:28
is being perpetrated God has become the
97:32
victim and God has become the attacker
97:35
or the perpetrator so you and I are God
97:40
in form along with the whole universe
97:44
God in form so consciousness at rest
97:48
bubbling potentiality at some point
97:51
explodes into the story of life from
97:53
beginning of time to the end of time and
97:58
that some point in the story God was
98:02
experiencing life through the dinosaurs
98:06
which assuming that existed at some
98:08
point according to you know what
98:10
evidence seems to be there in this
98:12
present moment story it suggests there
98:14
was a past with Dinosaurs
98:17
and so God was functioning through the
98:20
vehicle of a dinosaur the dinosaur had
98:23
its personal consciousness experience so
98:25
God was experiencing life from the
98:27
perspective of dinosaurs the most
98:29
complex vehicle through which
98:32
this was functioning and then this story
98:36
of God forgetting itself is a story of
98:39
evolution a story of cause and effect
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when we look at it that’s how life
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unfolds as if cause and effect is real
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so the story follows the rule of cause
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and effect and the dinosaurs evolved
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let’s say or life evolved to a point
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where it’s functioning through a much
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more complex vehicle so now God has a
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more complex experience of life so God
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has created a playground has become the
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playground in order to experience what
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it can never be God can never be
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separate can’t tear itself into seven
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billion little pieces because God is
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energy all there is so it creates a
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playground where it can create the
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apparent mini and then experience itself
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for a short period of time as something
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it can never actually be but for the
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experience of it why not
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horror movies horror movies are a valid
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genre of movies so life we could say is
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a creation of time and space creation of
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cause and effect creation of duality so
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within this creation which is a creation
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of duality there is good and bad big and
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small health and disease wealth and
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poverty extremely evil or cruel act an
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extremely kind act it’s an experience of
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duality so it’s going to have both good
100:36
and bad in us so when we have this
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question why did God create poverty
100:44
because he created wealth why did he
100:48
create unkindness because he created
100:51
kindness and remember when I say he
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created we’re saying it energy became
100:59
kindness and unkindness
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so the human that is identified with
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being this and feels like it’s
101:09
completeness is dependent on pleasure
101:12
pleasure pleasure pleasure simply can’t
101:16
accept or understand pain it’s not
101:22
acceptable to the human that sees life
101:24
as my doing and the other doing it can’t
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be that way from the perspective of
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knowing ourselves as something
101:34
unaffected by the flow of pleasure and
101:36
pain then life as a duality is
101:40
acceptable it’s a creation and so then
101:44
the question why because why not
101:53
the quick question why falls away why
101:56
why are there terrorist attacks because
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it’s part of the story of life terrorist
102:04
attacks are extremely painful and tragic
102:11
but it makes sense that tragedy is
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included in this this creation of
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extremes so then when we see tragic
102:20
acting say yes that is tragic doesn’t
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this doesn’t make the not tragic it
102:28
doesn’t make them pleasurable or nice at
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far from it
102:32
it makes them tragic but we understand
102:36
the place that tragedy holds in life
103:02
another way of refocusing our attention
103:08
which is important is to see that the
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universe in any moment
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based on our experience is about this
103:15
big the experience of life is here to
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the extent that we have an idea of the
103:24
universe being massive and that there is
103:28
a universe out there that is a belief
103:32
system about life that prevents life as
103:39
an experience being recognized the
103:42
experience is right here and the
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experience extends as far as our field
103:48
of awareness extends and the field of
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awareness that we’re aware of is the
103:53
field of awareness that we can call the
103:55
personal consciousness which extends as
103:59
far as the senses extend so my universe
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is this big if we want to come to know
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the universe this is the universe we
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need to come to know this present moment
104:15
experience the I you know the the the
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notion that one day I will know the
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universe yeah I agree with that but
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we’re not going to know the universe um
104:27
out there we’re not going to suddenly
104:31
understand all of the cosmic laws but
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the very basic fundamental recognition
104:39
of what the universe is as an experience
104:41
is intimately knowable that means the
104:45
experiences here right now and there’s
104:48
nothing outside of the experience if
104:51
we’re really present will say I can’t
104:53
confirm that there is Australia in
104:57
England in America anyway that’s hearsay
105:01
I don’t want to believe anything it
105:05
turns out that beliefs about who we are
105:08
and what life is is what prevents us
105:11
from knowing us
105:12
the belief that there is a here and are
105:15
there a belief that is unchallenged you
105:20
know we don’t challenge that there is
105:23
you know in Australia and in England and
105:25
in America out there it’s like on here
105:29
but it’s out that that belief is part of
105:35
the beliefs that keeps us convinced that
105:39
time and space is a reality not an
105:42
experience it keeps us convinced that
105:46
time and space is absolute whereas
105:49
actually it’s very relative it keeps us
105:53
convinced that the world and Who I am is
105:57
an objective reality and all of those
106:02
beliefs which are put in place not
106:05
because our parents didn’t come round
106:06
and say hey you know this is an
106:07
objective reality the experience itself
106:11
is designed to convince us of that so
106:17
the experience unfolds in a way that
106:21
makes it see that the world continuous
106:28
if the experience of life didn’t appear
106:33
moment after moment in a consistent way
106:36
a bit like a dream where a dream can be
106:40
less linear then what appears that in
106:45
daily living then we’d start to realize
106:48
this is an experience one minute it can
106:51
be this next minute something else but
106:54
the way life is designed is for it to
106:56
consistently appear as if it’s an
106:58
objective reality so the experience of
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life is just before we go to sleep we’re
107:02
in a bed in a room the next experience
107:06
is of waking up like well that that’s
107:10
what if the experience feels like yeah I
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went to sleep last night and we wake up
107:14
in a room that we see this is the room I
107:17
went to sleep in last night so it’s
107:18
designed to be continuous and life as an
107:23
experience is actually
107:25
not different from dream dream is an
107:28
experience recognized by consciousness
107:31
and we can start to see this if our
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dreams were consistently of the
107:38
environment that we live in in the daily
107:41
life experience so with the same friends
107:44
we have the same clothes living in the
107:46
same house
107:47
we’d have absolutely no idea what
107:50
happened in our dream and what happened
107:53
in life so if in your dream you take
107:57
your clothes to the laundry the and the
108:03
dream is consistent with your daily life
108:05
experience in your daily life experience
108:08
you’ll be wondering did I take my
108:10
clothes to the laundry and you’ll have
108:13
no way of knowing what happened in the
108:16
dream and what happened in life which
108:18
really means life is a dream the reason
108:23
we here life is a dream in wisdom
108:25
teachings it’s because it’s pointing to
108:27
the fact life is a experience a
108:31
momentary experience that is designed to
108:34
appear like a reality an experience
108:37
specifically designed to convince us
108:40
that it’s something that it isn’t that’s
108:45
why we life is an illusion life is Maya
108:51
delusion life is Lila a play a play in
108:57
consciousness all of this pointing to
109:03
the fact that life is an experience
109:06
designed specifically to create an
109:11
impression about who we are and what
109:13
life is that is inaccurate means the
109:16
forgetting of oneself means the living
109:19
life in fear resisting life thinking
109:23
that this is who I am and this is life
109:26
and I need it to be a certain way and at
109:30
some point an awakening to the fact it’s
109:34
a dream we don’t awaken up out of the
109:36
dream
109:38
we awaken to the fact it is a dream and
109:42
then the dream carries on
109:44
but now the dream carries on with us
109:47
being connected to something deeper
109:50
meaning that the dream is known to be
109:53
inconsequential to what I am of my core
109:56
in fact what I am at my core is the very
110:00
substance in which the dream is arising
110:03
what I am at my core is that in which
110:07
the dream arises that which is aware of
110:10
the dream and that which the dream is
110:14
made of
110:28
so we have a little bit more time if any
110:31
questions have arisen there so going
110:45
back to this belief in doer shift so if
110:55
if there is no doer then what it like
111:02
who is it that has this belief in do
111:06
ership and I’m asking because when I
111:10
hear that suffering arises from these
111:16
beliefs of personal doer ship and
111:23
attachment to
111:27
pleasure my my reaction is to then want
111:34
to investigate these police with with
111:39
the purpose of undoing them but I don’t
111:43
know if I’m like that dog chasing its
111:46
tail where is that coming from a sense
111:50
of do you know am I trying to get rid of
111:53
it it can be but um if it arises as a
111:58
contemplation of these concepts I mean
112:02
even other teachings but I’m talking
112:03
about these teachings if it arises is a
112:06
contemplation of these concepts and
112:08
there is a astute awareness of what
112:13
suffering looks like which the concepts
112:18
hope to put in place so the concepts is
112:21
that suffering is ultimately an
112:24
uncomfortableness with oneself and to
112:28
the extent that we feel this
112:30
uncomfortable witness with oneself and
112:33
become familiar with it then we can
112:38
become aware our this is suffering and
112:42
so if we find ourselves engaging in the
112:45
teachings in an unhealthy way meaning if
112:50
the doer here is something and then the
112:53
doer starts trying to achieve something
112:55
because of what it heard then suffering
112:58
is going to arrive that’s just
113:00
inevitable when the doer is functioning
113:03
suffering is going to be there and at
113:04
some point awareness will land on the
113:06
suffering and another inquiry will be so
113:10
what has gone wrong as the doer
113:15
taken up residence through the back door
113:19
which is very good at doing and to the
113:22
extent that our awareness starts to
113:25
become more and more finely tuned to
113:27
what suffering feels like and it can
113:31
catch the suffering and to the extent
113:34
that the working mind becomes more and
113:36
more equipped to understand
113:39
dynamics that are at the base of
113:41
suffering then the combination of
113:43
awareness catching the suffering and the
113:45
working mind doing an investigation into
113:48
the suffering will reveal the doer
113:53
that’s taken hold and it will dissolve
113:57
so your question is who life has put
114:04
these false beliefs in place who has the
114:08
beliefs and that’s an assumption based
114:11
on our way of seeing life in where we
114:16
could say in the general terms where
114:18
we’ve believed certain things to be
114:21
absolute laws so we’re convinced the
114:25
doer is convinced that if there is a
114:27
belief there must be a believer of the
114:29
belief now that’s an assumption that
114:33
isn’t how the universe works if there is
114:38
a belief that doesn’t have to be a
114:40
believer in fact the pointers are
114:45
pointing to the fact there is no
114:47
believer there is a body which is
114:51
essentially a biological instrument a
114:53
machine and the machine has been
114:57
programmed to function a certain way so
115:00
the body includes the brain the brain is
115:03
part of the body the brain is like a
115:06
cookie machine that spits out thoughts
115:10
the brain is a machine that spits out
115:13
thoughts it’s a machine that spits out
115:17
thoughts that include I did this I need
115:22
this you did that you should and
115:25
shouldn’t have done that
115:26
and so the thoughts that come out create
115:29
the impression of a me a doer and so who
115:37
this is the thing if I say in in
115:41
spirituality there’s a well in non-dual
115:44
spirituality sometimes in certain
115:47
teachings we’ll hear the
115:49
who wants to know who is seeking
115:54
happiness who has these thoughts and
116:00
it’s like who well I what you mean who
116:04
what it’s pointing at is find the who
116:08
find the thinker of the thoughts so when
116:12
we really look for the thinker of the
116:15
thought we don’t find anyone there this
116:19
teaching is saying that the thoughts
116:21
arise based on the body’s genes and
116:24
up-to-date-conditioning so essentially
116:26
saying there is a body with a brain part
116:30
of the body the brain is responsible for
116:33
producing thoughts and the thoughts come
116:36
from the brain specific makeup genes and
116:39
up-to-date-conditioning it’s like a
116:42
computer for computer is designed to
116:44
spit out sentences spit out words fit
116:48
out well I don’t use the word thought
116:52
because a computer needs to produce a
116:54
physical output like typing or sound um
116:59
it will do that it will produce whatever
117:01
it’s designed to produce and just
117:04
because it says to you hi hello how are
117:06
you
117:07
doesn’t mean that there is a speaker or
117:10
a thinker it just means the computer is
117:14
designed to produce those words so this
117:19
personal sense of me that’s an agent of
117:26
life is is really just a set of beliefs
117:29
which is why you’re saying it’s enough
117:31
to investigate these belief yes even see
117:38
this is a bit of a distinction the word
117:40
me often refers to the me that I think
117:45
they eat what used to be referred to as
117:48
the ego in this teaching it’s not
117:50
referred to as the ego in this teaching
117:53
I am the ego I’ll always be the ego the
117:56
ego doesn’t go any way but you have an
118:00
ego with
118:01
the belief in personal due issue or an
118:04
ego without the belief in personal
118:07
doership and so the me aspect is
118:11
referring to the belief in personal
118:13
doership an attachment to outcome so the
118:16
me is the the beliefs and the thoughts
118:20
that take life personally that are
118:23
moving in a certain direction so the me
118:27
is the belief in personal doership that
118:29
can be completely annihilated
118:37
it gets annihilated when those beliefs
118:41
are investigated and seen to actually be
118:44
beliefs coming from a programmed
118:47
instrument and where we sort of separate
118:52
because the thoughts are now able to be
118:55
seen as objects objects produced by an
118:58
object and what is aware of those
119:01
objects is not an object
119:03
what is aware of those objects is the
119:06
subject the thoughts are not able to be
119:11
observed as objects when we believe I
119:15
think those thoughts once it becomes
119:19
clear that the thoughts are objects
119:20
produced by an instrument then a
119:23
witnessing of the thoughts as objects
119:26
can happen when that is seen there seem
119:32
to be less true than we thought before
119:35
and certain thoughts can fall away that
119:40
doesn’t mean that the personal nurse
119:43
falls away when the belief in doer ship
119:46
falls away there is still the sense that
119:49
I am Roger so I am Roger isn’t the
119:57
problem so just to clarify what you’re
120:02
saying but in these teachings what you
120:04
when you say ego you’re talking about
120:07
personal that personal consciousness
120:12
when when in this teaching when we talk
120:15
about ego we’re talking about the
120:17
combination of impersonal consciousness
120:19
and the body and the personal
120:22
consciousness so the ego doesn’t go
120:25
anywhere and this like a doubter was an
120:28
ego Ramesh was an ego the Buddha was an
120:30
ego and they were an ego until the point
120:33
of death of the body the differentiation
120:37
here is that you have an ego with the
120:39
belief in personal doership an
120:41
attachment to outcome and a belief and
120:43
an ego without the belief the ego
120:47
without the belief in personal due issue
120:49
has recognized that it is an instrument
120:52
through which source is functioning that
120:55
it is a personal expression of source
120:57
but it is not separate from source so
121:02
the belief in personal do ership
121:04
obscures our connection to source the
121:07
collapsing of the belief in personal
121:09
doership means our connection to source
121:11
is revealed and that is the source of
121:13
our contentment that is the realization
121:17
that what I am is not a separate limited
121:19
individual entity what I am is source
121:23
functioning through a vehicle and so for
121:30
as long as life continues the experience
121:33
is going to be of an individual which is
121:35
a result of the impersonal consciousness
121:37
and the body but that sense of being an
121:41
individual is not exclusive the sense of
121:46
being an individual is now not treated
121:48
to be absolute it’s known to be part of
121:52
the experience and in the experience as
121:54
well as knowing myself as an individual
121:57
it’s known that the individual is
121:59
actually an extension and expression of
122:01
source thank you these talks will be
122:08
recorded enough on YouTube so you can
122:12
listen to actually this is something I’d
122:13
like to say to people here and that
122:16
listen one of the phenomenas that we
122:20
tend to have as humans is we think I’ve
122:22
experienced that so now I need something
122:26
new and in spiritual teachings what’s
122:30
said needs to penetrate down through
122:33
many many layers of beliefs that to the
122:37
contrary of what said so my experience
122:40
is when I read a book not one or two
122:43
times but 10 times when I listen to
122:46
recordings not 10 or 15 times but 30 or
122:50
40 times each time I listen to a
122:54
recording I was hearing something new
122:58
a new person essentially was listening
123:00
to the recording because when I heard it
123:04
previously it would have an effect on my
123:06
genes and up-to-date-conditioning and
123:08
there’s a preciseness in the concepts so
123:12
if we listen to it and then rewind it
123:16
and listen to it again if we listen to
123:18
it over and that the recording the whole
123:20
2 hours 10 times that’s not a waste of
123:24
time that’s an opportunity for the
123:29
concepts to become deeply understood
123:32
first on an intellectual level and then
123:35
the intellectual life level turns into a
123:38
deeper and deeper understanding as the
123:40
intellectual understanding picks up what
123:44
it’s pointing at in life so it puts a
123:48
tick next to the concepts each time it
123:51
observes the concept in action each time
123:54
it observes life happening in line with
123:57
what the concept points out so tomorrow
124:01
I’ll talk about how that intellectual
124:02
understanding goes deeper and deeper and
124:04
I’d also like to talk about how we can
124:08
use dreams
124:09
an analysis of dream as a mirror down
124:14
version of life meaning we can
124:18
investigate night dreams to see how life
124:22
is actually an arising in consciousness
124:24
and that what happens in the flow of
124:27
life meaning this right now the words
124:30
the sensations I just like what happens
124:35
in a dream the dream character isn’t the
124:38
one that chooses what the content of the
124:41
dream is and yet the dream is designed
124:44
for the dream character to be convinced
124:47
based on the experience of the dream
124:49
that of course he chooses what is
124:53
happening in the dream of course he
124:55
chooses what he says and what he does
124:57
and what the outcomes are
125:03
so thank you everyone

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